Friday, February 24, 2012

I know some people think it is unnecessary to go to an aviation college for a lot of $$$, and that an aviation degree is useless outside of aviation, but without those sterotypes which is the best one?

UND, ERAU, Purdue, Florida Tech, Daniel Webster? Maybe another one I did not mention?

I do plan on double majoring maybe in business and with commercial aviation, I know this is allowed at UND.

Also what do you think about the University Gateway program at UND/ERAU that guarantees a job right out of school as an instructor, then cape air for 2 years, then guarantees an interview at JetBlue?|||I think you HAVE to look at the accreditation of the school at least for "value" vs "cost" of your education. I know that UND and Purdue are recognized fully accredited universities, that means that hours from them will be accepted at other universities and colleges within the US. It also means that they meet certain educational standards that other "for profit schools" may or may not meet. Just look at the database at the US Department of Education .. http://ope.ed.gov/accreditation/InstAccr鈥?/a>
That link is for UND. Check the other schools, see who, or what, or where they rate and rank.

When you get a "degree" you want that degree to be of recognized value in the job market arena. ERAU may indeed have value within aviation but within the rest of corporate America it does not carry the same weight as does Purdue or UND or Florida State, Texas A&M, or University of Arizona, etc.|||MrAUDU, I am much younger than 17 and am currently working on my private pilots license.

Answer:
I say Purdue, but I like Embry Riddle Aeronautical University at Prescott and might go there for college.|||Parks College In St. Louis, The Army or Airforce|||probably embery riddle|||There are multiple routes available to you to become a pilot. At 17 you can go to a private pilot training school, generally located at the airport and begin to take flying lessons or you can go the military route. Also you can locate a community college that offers the same sort of training. Keep in mind that these schools are very expensive. If you want to go the military route you will need to go to college, earn a degree and commission in order to apply for flight school in the military. There is no expense to you; in fact they pay to go! Also in college you may opt for a ROTC (Reserve Officers Training Corps) program that earns your commission prior to graduation. The Army will let you fly as a Warrant Officer; all other branches require you to be a commissioned officer prior to entry into the flight training.
Airlines prefer the military option because the training is infinitely more extensive and demanding. These are the steps that you go through to get to the cockpit of an airliner via the military. Do not fall prey to the civilian flight school hype. Remember that there are few jobs available and that you will compete with ex-military aviators whose qualifications are infinitely better than yours. The poorest performing military jet trainer has an infinitely higher level of performance the best civilian propeller-powered aircraft. For-profit schools such as ERAU and others do not get you a better quality of flight education, can't guarantee you a job and they are the most expensive. Last week an ERAU grad asked how to get into the military flight schools because after sending out applications and having interviews he discovered that not only was he still unemployed, but worse, he was " unemployable". Airlines were not only unimpressed with his ERAU training, but actually scornful of it. I never met a Navy pilot who attended a civilian flight "academy". According to a CBS 60 Minutes report, for-profit schools have the highest student loan default rate because their education is so substandard that the students can't find a job. 'Nuf said. Get your degree in any field other than one related to aviation. When flying jobs go south, they take the entire industry with it. According to BOAC, they could furlough every pilot they current employ and replace them all out of the applications they have now, plus there would still be still be few dozen left overs. Give you a clue? Give up the notion that you will be the exception. You will not.
If you are considering starting flight training prior to having your degree, don't start. If you are already flying prior to having your degree, stop. If you are going the civilian route, start flying after college and schedule your lessons as closer together as possible. That way you avoid reviewing which costs the same as instructional flying. The military has students fly at least once a day and twice on the day of a scheduled night hop. Football teams have 2 practice sessions a day prior to the season opener for the exact same reason. No review.
For military flight school openers you must be a 4-year college graduate, graduate from Officer Candidate School (OCS) or some other officer entry program; i.e. AFROTC or NROTC, USAFA, USNA, USMA. You must be in nearly perfect health with at least 20/20 vision and no color-blind issues, at least 5'6" tall and no visible tattoos. Then you apply for flight school, graduate at or near the top of your class and the service must have an available slot in the jet program. So far, so good. Then you must learn to fly the particular aircraft that you are assigned, then learn to fly combat missions, day and night, good weather or bad, and then get the bird back to base (if you do all of this in the Navy you return to the most hazardous part of the mission - landing on the aircraft carrier). You can plan on roughly 6 years between the start of college and completing the program. Then you must complete your obligated length of service in the military. If it were easy, anybody could do it. Then go to the airlines and apply.

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